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9/3/2009 9:09:00 PM
...the historical record needs some re-writing.
Liberal MP Bob Rae joined our very own Dave Rutherford this morning to talk about the possibility of a November election, which the Liberals strangely seem intent on forcing. You can listen to an excerpt via the audio player at right.
The conversation drifted to last year's failed Liberal NDP-Bloc coalition during which Bob Rae had some very curious - and inaccurate - things to say about those heady days. One example:
Dave: "Coalition if necessary, but not necessarily a coalition" - didn't Michael Ignatieff say this?"
Bob: No.
Well, at 2:06 of the following video, he says precisely that:
The rest of the exchange involved Rae denying that Ignatieff signed the coalition documents, although as Steve Janke points out, there were different documents, so Bob Rae may be offering a technicality as to what Ignatieff signed and what he didn't sign. One letter, for example, was signed only by Stephane Dion, Jack Layton, and Gilles Duceppe, so of course Ignatieff didn't sign that, and Bob Rae could claim he was referring to that.
Ignatieff clearly signed off and spoke in favour of the coalition, even though it did leak out that he wasn't crazy about it. Bob Rae, on the other hand, was a major coalition supporter, so that might put all of this in a different light.
The Liberals "have made a commitment to the coalition to get the economy on the right track for Canadian families," NDP Leader Jack Layton said in a prepared statement.
That commitment included Ignatieff's signature on a piece of paper, Layton said.
"Every Liberal and New Democrat member of Parliament has signed a letter to Her Excellency the Governor General stating that they collectively and individually lost confidence in the government and were committed to governing together."
He's also on record supporting the coalition as you can see below:
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Rob Breakenridge
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Glad you were just visiting Claude.
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Posted By
Sammy
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9/6/2009 11:36:16 AM
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Hey Claude, I bet Harper isn't such an idiot to Quebecers when he's handing you billions of dollars every year.
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Posted By
Joe
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9/6/2009 11:35:24 AM
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The coalition remains an albatross around Iggy's neck. Will it become a noose, with Harper pulling the trap door ? Stay tuned.
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Posted By
Macky Avelli
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9/5/2009 11:06:14 PM
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Hey Robert - I do believe that Stephen Harper has called exactly one election - 2008 - the previous one - 2006 was when Paul Martin was in power.
That statement alone shows your ignorance.
And say again just how the gun registry figured in the Mayerthorpe murders?
Comment #2 shows your stupidity.
Please do some research before you comment.
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Posted By
Alberta Girl
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9/5/2009 6:17:06 AM
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Hey I am from Québec, I was in your beautiful province last month on vacation. I only have one question for you guys, most of which were very nice, WTF are you doing voting for a moron like Harper I understand he is a home grown boy but you have better to offer this guy is an idiot. Well we have idiot also voting for the bloc I am fighting them also.
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Posted By
claude archambault
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9/4/2009 6:20:56 PM
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I talked to a dyed in the wool Liberal friend of mine.Asked him what he thought of the Ignatieff tough talk. He said if the Liberals or the NDP are so ddrunk with power that they would force an election on Harper,he will not vote .
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Posted By
Gar
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9/4/2009 4:25:31 PM
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I talked to a dyed in the wool Liberal friend of mine.Asked him what he thought of the Ignatieff tough talk. He said if the Liberals or the NDP are so ddrunk with power that they would force an election on Harper,he will not vote .
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Posted By
Gar
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9/4/2009 4:24:39 PM
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It's obvious that the hard liner behind Iggy is Bob Rae. He knows they can't win an election, he wants Iggy to fall flat on his face in order for him to get another crack at the leadership. And if he gets it, the Liberals will be out of office for a long time. Being unelectable in Ontario is not the way for any kind of a Liberal future in this country.
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Posted By
VIP
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9/4/2009 4:20:27 PM
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The Liberals must think Canadians are morons. That's the only explanation I can think of for the constant bold faced lies. Are they secretly hoping no one notices or that the Liberals get a free pass on such nonsense.
If the grass root liberal support have any sense at all they'd send Iggy packing and make the brain trust keep their promise and let them elect their next leader and redefine the party. The old boys need to hit the road!
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Posted By
Kate
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9/4/2009 2:30:50 PM
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OK, I know all politicians are full of it, but I have never heard one lie so unabashedly. I can't believe this is not headline news on CTV and CBC (well, I guess the latter would never play this....).
I love ya Bob. What a hoot!!
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Posted By
mpdman
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9/4/2009 1:41:04 PM
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Lie-beral scumbags, where's the 42 million you stole from us?
Joe Morselli sleeps with the lieberal fish.
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Posted By
richfisher
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9/4/2009 1:15:02 PM
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Bob Rae has undermined Ignatieff with his outrageous assertions. It's almost as if Bob Rae is living in an alternate political universe. He should be held to account for his misleading propaganda by all the media.
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Posted By
Observant
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9/4/2009 1:10:07 PM
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Geoff - I assume you meant Robert, not JoAnne
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Posted By
Rob
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9/4/2009 12:54:34 PM
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I notice the Liberal Trolls are at it again. Robert, you are obviously doing exactly like your Liberal masters. Spinning the same song, Harper is this , Harper is that. All without offering one shred of evidence and zero concrete proposals on how the Liberals would do any better. Well, we've seen what the Liberals did over 13 years and virtually all the same players are still here. Why do you think they would do any different now? By the way, where's the missing 42 million dollars?
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Posted By
Peter
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9/4/2009 12:40:35 PM
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Liberals claiming that Ignatief is forcing an election?
Dream on in technacolor.
Without the socialist's and seperatist's approval, the Liberals don't have enough seats to force anything.
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Posted By
Doowleb
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9/4/2009 12:22:55 PM
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JoAnne, are you on glue? Nobody has ever cranked the cost per election estimate up to half a billion dollars. You're breaking new ground. Liberals are not evil, its just that the current crop of leaders seems to be power hungry. Yeah, I know you'll say "but Harper wants power even more and would sell his soul to the devil to keep it". He'd have to get in line behind Iggy cuz he and Bobby sold theirs to the Block back a few months ago and the Block is the closest we've got the the devil on earth.
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Posted By
Geoff H
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9/4/2009 12:13:26 PM
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Try to stay on topic, Robert. This is a news site, not a leftist blog.
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Posted By
Andrew
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9/4/2009 11:05:26 AM
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This isn't much of a story really, HOWEVER if Iggy slips a wafer in his pocket, that would be a story.
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Posted By
mark in TO
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9/4/2009 10:37:28 AM
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Liberal Party of Canada "Leader" Micheal Ignatieff also said (CBC Sunday Morning, Dec.'08) ..."We, the political elite, know more than the Canadian voters." ...by Wednesday he was on CBC saying "I am just a humble public servant." Well, Ignatieff seems to not know WHAT he is pretending to be, and/or to whom.
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Posted By
Pierre Elliott Trudeau
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9/4/2009 10:31:01 AM
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> Harper calls an election whenever the polls put him up half a point...
What a stupid lie. He's been ahead of the Libs for quite some time now, hasn't he? Fool.
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Posted By
Darrrell
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9/4/2009 10:29:47 AM
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